Wild Hybrid

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is the huge amount of VA crossover within the series. Mostly with the ladies. Kevin Michael Richardson too.

But it’s mostly the ladies.

Because with the exception of Sayd (Lady Guardian) and two or three others, all the women are voiced by Jennifer Hale, Grey Delisle, and Tara Strong. Those…

The US voice acting population is kind of stretched thin anyway.  Like, I love most of their voices and their ranges, but seriously I can tell when you’re playing six characters in one show and even more across shows on the same network.

Mmm. You’d be surprised about how much of that isn’t “same network.” It’s just a matter of where the studios are, really. The voice acting community is a small one, but it is a little bit bigger than what GL is portraying it as. For instance, there’s very little doubling up on Young Justice.

Budget may have something to do with how many VAs they can afford to hire per episode.  This is keeping in mind that GLTAS is rather expensive because it’s CG.

That’s not really an excuse for recycling the number of VAs they did. I had a feeling Cartoon Network was lowballing the budget on this show, but I wish they hadn’t. Again, even one or two other actors to fill in the gaps. I just watched the finale and it was kind of distracting listening to Green Lantern Tom Kenny with a mild voice distortion fighting Red Lantern Tom Kenny.

If Cartoon Network wants to push CGI that’s all well and dandy, but they’ve got to stop cutting the budget on the rest of it to get a nice shiny 3D show. I completely understand that it’s more expensive to animate, but if they want a show that’s more expensive to animate, they should keep in mind that slacking on other elements still brings down the overall quality.

That’s not an excuse.  That’s likely the actual reason.  When networks decide to green light new shows, they are taking a risk every time.  They can’t just spend tons of money on a bet, hoping that it will take off and be super popular.  That’s just bad business.  Now, if something does end up doing well, then they can feel justified in sinking more money into future seasons to make them even better.  

As for the VAs, I find what you’re saying to be rather insulting to the talent and range the current cast provides.  Personally, I didn’t even notice that Tom Kenny was voicing both characters.  Additionally, calling a smaller crew versus a larger one “slacking and bringing down the quality”?  Wow, not cool.  Besides, if slacking were the case, then why did they hire the likes of Rob Paulsen and Clancy Brown for the minor parts of Goggan and Zartok, respectively?  It’s not as if the same five people are doing every voice on the show.

It’s just not feasible to have one actor or actress per part for as many characters as the show makes use of.  If one person can provide two or three voices that fit a character, it makes more sense to go that route and pay them a small percentage increase in their salary than paying a whole lot more to add another person to the payroll.  That’s also fewer people they have to coordinate recording sessions with.

If they were really being cheap about this, the show wouldn’t have the talent that it does.  I’d rather they keep a smaller, more talented crew on board who can produce quality work as opposed to a larger crew with less experience.

I think you’re misinterpreting what I was originally saying. I think that the cast brings a lot of diversity to the characters they voice.

They’re not the ones I’m faulting. The actors, directors, et cetera are not the ones who are “slacking.” The network executives are the ones I’m faulting.They wanted a big CGI show, and put up the money for a big CGI show, produced by Bruce Timm, a man they know has had phenomenal success with every single DC property he’s adapted for television, and then cut the budget short on how many people they could hire for voices.

Because again, it’s not the actors work. The tone is great, the characters are great. I just wish, especially with the female characters, that there were one or two more female VAs. Not even one per character, maybe even just having Tara Strong voice another character in the Star Sapphire episode, a lady heavy episode where almost everyone was voiced by Jennifer Hale and Grey Delisle. I have no problem with doubling up as a rule. It makes sense and it happens all the time.

Again, going back to my original post, part of my personal problem is that I have a keen ear for voices. I can hear who is voicing what and it’s really easy for me, as in nearly automatic, to pick out voice actors.

There was one time I was watching Gilmore Girls and realized that one of the grandmother’s tea friends was the voice of Cosmo’s mom from Fairly Odd Parents. This is just something that happens. It’s not something that even really bugs me. I thought it was hilarious when I realized that Jake Long and Zuko were voiced by Dante Basco and that Rose and Katara were voiced by Mae Whitman. I loved spotting Clancy Brown and Rob Paulsen in GL:TAS, and hearing Tom Kenny not being wacky.

I mean absolutely no disrespect to any of the voice crew or the voice directors. You took my original post way out of its original context and put words in my mouth, and I don’t appreciate that. I’m not an idiot and I know that as a pilot season it’s going to have a lower budget.

If I have misinterpreted what you meant, then a number of other people have as well.  Namely the ones I showed this post to in order to see what they thought of the matter.  And I’m not really putting words in your mouth.  ”…slacking on other elements still brings down the overall quality.”  That was you, not me.

Unless you can bring forth some concrete numbers on the cost of production, allowed budget, cost of advertising and the like, I think making mention of “low-balling” in terms of budget is a little ridiculous.  Other shows that have likely cost less per episode and that were created by people who have brought success before have not always done as well as the network hoped.  (Though in the case of Generator Rex, for example, I fully believe that was failure on the network’s part to advertise and deal properly with quality shows.  That was a series created by Man of Action and they put forth Ben 10, which has one of the most popular selling toy lines in the world.)  Just because Bruce Timm has a record of success isn’t an automatic reason to give him a ton of money to do absolutely everything to make a show practically perfect.  Especially when they’re going out on a limb with a costly CG show and CN’s been fighting for ratings against the likes of Nick and Disney.

So hey.  Again.  I’m just saying it’s budget + caution.  That was my entire point from the moment I started responding to this.  It makes sense.  And honestly I’ve got nothing more to say.

brikit:

wildhybrid:

brikit:

witchtrees:

brikit:

is the huge amount of VA crossover within the series. Mostly with the ladies. Kevin Michael Richardson too.

But it’s mostly the ladies.

Because with the exception of Sayd (Lady Guardian) and two or three others, all the women are voiced by Jennifer Hale, Grey Delisle, and Tara Strong. Those…

The US voice acting population is kind of stretched thin anyway.  Like, I love most of their voices and their ranges, but seriously I can tell when you’re playing six characters in one show and even more across shows on the same network.

Mmm. You’d be surprised about how much of that isn’t “same network.” It’s just a matter of where the studios are, really. The voice acting community is a small one, but it is a little bit bigger than what GL is portraying it as. For instance, there’s very little doubling up on Young Justice.

Budget may have something to do with how many VAs they can afford to hire per episode.  This is keeping in mind that GLTAS is rather expensive because it’s CG.

That’s not really an excuse for recycling the number of VAs they did. I had a feeling Cartoon Network was lowballing the budget on this show, but I wish they hadn’t. Again, even one or two other actors to fill in the gaps. I just watched the finale and it was kind of distracting listening to Green Lantern Tom Kenny with a mild voice distortion fighting Red Lantern Tom Kenny.

If Cartoon Network wants to push CGI that’s all well and dandy, but they’ve got to stop cutting the budget on the rest of it to get a nice shiny 3D show. I completely understand that it’s more expensive to animate, but if they want a show that’s more expensive to animate, they should keep in mind that slacking on other elements still brings down the overall quality.

That’s not an excuse.  That’s likely the actual reason.  When networks decide to green light new shows, they are taking a risk every time.  They can’t just spend tons of money on a bet, hoping that it will take off and be super popular.  That’s just bad business.  Now, if something does end up doing well, then they can feel justified in sinking more money into future seasons to make them even better.  

As for the VAs, I find what you’re saying to be rather insulting to the talent and range the current cast provides.  Personally, I didn’t even notice that Tom Kenny was voicing both characters.  Additionally, calling a smaller crew versus a larger one “slacking and bringing down the quality”?  Wow, not cool.  Besides, if slacking were the case, then why did they hire the likes of Rob Paulsen and Clancy Brown for the minor parts of Goggan and Zartok, respectively?  It’s not as if the same five people are doing every voice on the show.

It’s just not feasible to have one actor or actress per part for as many characters as the show makes use of.  If one person can provide two or three voices that fit a character, it makes more sense to go that route and pay them a small percentage increase in their salary than paying a whole lot more to add another person to the payroll.  That’s also fewer people they have to coordinate recording sessions with.

If they were really being cheap about this, the show wouldn’t have the talent that it does.  I’d rather they keep a smaller, more talented crew on board who can produce quality work as opposed to a larger crew with less experience.

brikit:

witchtrees:

brikit:

is the huge amount of VA crossover within the series. Mostly with the ladies. Kevin Michael Richardson too.

But it’s mostly the ladies.

Because with the exception of Sayd (Lady Guardian) and two or three others, all the women are voiced by Jennifer Hale, Grey Delisle, and Tara Strong. Those…

The US voice acting population is kind of stretched thin anyway.  Like, I love most of their voices and their ranges, but seriously I can tell when you’re playing six characters in one show and even more across shows on the same network.

Mmm. You’d be surprised about how much of that isn’t “same network.” It’s just a matter of where the studios are, really. The voice acting community is a small one, but it is a little bit bigger than what GL is portraying it as. For instance, there’s very little doubling up on Young Justice.

Budget may have something to do with how many VAs they can afford to hire per episode.  This is keeping in mind that GLTAS is rather expensive because it’s CG.

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Via posting on dear_mun (we’re having a GLTAS party over there, I swear…the last four posts on the DC Animated tag are from Aya, Hal Jordan, Razer and Saint Walker), I suddently realized…what is Razer going to do now?

He spent 18+ months making his life all about the Red Lantern cause and…

Oooh speculation. I love it.

I think we are not going to get a big time jump. Maybe a day or two and the next episode will start with Hal, Aya and Razer going back to Kilowog. I hope Hal was informed of Kilowog’s victory before going on a date because if not wtf Hal you went back for dessert not knowing if your bro was safe.

As for Razer, I’m very curious about what they are going to do with him. While I believe he’ll forever be an angry zebra bunny, he seems to be getting better at handling it. I mean, he had his wife’s killer right in front of him and he didn’t even try to punch him. That’s huge for him. He’ll probably have issues with his powers now but him not being a red lantern anymore? I think it’s a little too early for that.

He’ll probably spend the rest of the season thinking about that love tunnel and how it led him to Aya and denying he has feelings for her or being conflicted because Ilana…. and Aya used Ilana’s face to model her own and now Papa Hal and Kilodad are going to kill him if he hurts their baby girl.

As much as I want Saint Walker Mogo Ranger to join them, I think he’ll leave to recruit more Blue Lanterns :(

I doubt Razer will leave the crew he loves them too much. We don’t know who is going to be the Big Bad of the rest of the season (Larflezze? Sinestro? Atrocitus escapes in his gladiator outfit and gets his ring back?). I think the Guardians will send Hal and his band of merry lanterns to patrol the forgotten zone or something.

Haha, I thought about that thing with Hal and leaving so suddenly, too.  I was like, “Wait, did you already call Kilowog?  You know he’s okay, right?  Because if not, wtf man, C’MON.”  XD

Most of this just hit my brain like a ton of bricks because I was tagging with Aya’s player and the muse suddenly came up with, “The mission is over, what do I do  now?”  Suddenly all this uncertainty on top of his confusion regarding Aya and I was like, “Well, dammit.  Here we go.”  And now I can’t stop thinking about it.  The next three to four months are going to be torture.  ;-;

I suppose it’s possible that if the time between seasons is just a matter of days, Razer could be asked to stay on Oa as a witness in Atrocitus’ trial.  Obviously the dude is in deep trouble just for what he did on Oa alone, but Razer would know a lot more about the crimes Atrocitus committed and ordered others to carry out.  Then maybe something will come up right then that will require the crew to stay together.  I mean, obviously the crew will be together even if they split up for a short bit or something next season because they’re the main cast.  I’m just kind of speculating on the time in between, really, if there is much of any time at all.  (Title for the original post was admittedly a bit misleading.  Less speculation for season 2 on the whole, more like…what happens between seasons if anything and therefore what will be the starting situation when season 2 begins.  But argh, what are words.  I’m tired and I should have been in bed like three hours ago.  Oops.)

But in terms of actual season 2 speculation, I’m so hoping for Sinestro to show up next season so much oh man you have no idea.  XD